New Router setup

[bmeister1]

Wanted to know how I can access both routers at the same time while on the same network. Have a fios router that is 192.168.1.1 and that is connected through 2 switches and then the new router is connected on the last switch. I can not run a cable directly into the second router from the first. How can I access this second router while being on the same network as the first router. DHCP (Or Something Else) is turned off so I can go into a lan port instead of internet. New router is a trednent tew 818

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[GenTsoChiken]

I forget exactly how it needs to be done, but yes, connect the second router by a LAN port but at least make sure the DHCP is turned off. Also, the DCHP host should auto assign the second router a specific IP based on MAC address so you know where to find it.

[Digger[NJLP]]

Ok well, depends on how you want them to function.

As I have two routers in my network, I have one connected to FIOS directly as the WAN connection.
Lets call it "outside"
The "outside internal network I set to 10.148.52.x. So anything plugged in to the LAN ports or wifi
will get an address from DHCP of 10.148.52.2, 3, 4 etc...

I then plug the wan port for the second router, call it "inside" in to one of the lan plugs on the first "outside" router.
The inside router will get a WAN IP from the outside router of say 10.148.52.5 or whatever is available. I usually hard code via reservation so it never changes.

I setup the second "inside" router's internal lan on 10.148.53.x, never use the same IP scheme as the outside.

Now you have two networks firewalled, I usually stick my servers and NAS devices on the outside and leave the inside for personal laptops and PC's.

Works pretty well, Diggers den is on the outside network and my PC's and stuff can access it from the internal network without issue.

[bmeister1]

I will give that a shot. Thanks guys.

[NILL]

So all the routers and switches have cat5 between them? Install Tomato and follow this guide:
http://www.howtogeek.com/104469/how-to- ... ss-points/

I did the same thing with the Netgear WNR3500L.

[bmeister1]

all cat 5e. thanks for the suggestion nill. Will look into this when I come back.

[GenTsoChiken]

Yea, FiOS is a bit weird in that you "need" to use "their" router. Finding a MOCA Router is a bit difficult as MOCA isn't widely used in home settings. That considered, the FiOS router needs to be your primary with DHCP. Depending on the features you're looking to exploit out of the secondary router, you'll need to hook it up a specific way, like digger said.

In his case, he's setting up a secondary firewall and nested network/subnet. In my case, my second router has a built in NAS and N wifi. For my set up to work, I needed to turn off DHCP, assign it a static IP on the DHCP table on the primary router and within it's own settings, and then connect the two on one of the LAN ports on the second router (effectively turning it into a switch with a wifi access point).

You didn't really go into detail of what you're using the second router for except needing to access it on the same LAN...

[NILL]

Can't you just set the FiOS router into Transparent Bridge mode? Or is there a reason that's unacceptable?

[bmeister1]

Not to sure if the fios router has that option.

[Digger[NJLP]]

FIOS router does not have to be the "main" router. I have had my FIOS router attached to my Cisco router and the Cisco router's WAN port plugged directly into my WAN port provided for FIOS.
In that configuration you just open up the ip for the FIOS router as a DMZ. All functionality for the FIOS router will work fine.

What is the end goal here actually?
More hardwired ports, separate ip networking/security for server and clients, separation of networks for testing?

[bmeister1]

Good question digger. The goal was just to have access to both routers just in case I need to change something. I wanted to redo the internet more efficiently but never wanted to make new cables.